Separation and Triple Extension
June 6, 2009
This videos covers the importance of “Separation” which builds core torque, increases velocity and takes stress off of the arm. Brent Pourciau also talks about how “Triple Extension” and the “Load” position is the key to generating optimal “Separation.
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I think this is a pretty good video, however I think what you call triple extension really just means the back leg turning over, which happens as a result of what is happening in the pelvic region. Once the hips have fully opened, the back leg has no choice but to turn down and in. Maybe you have found this to be a more useful cue for your players, but the movement is originated from the hips, whether or not focusing on them or the back leg is what produces the actual results.
Also, your only real suggestion for how to practice this is to put yourself in that position and then try to feel it and land there. Setpro’s backwards chaining approach really bridges this motor learning gap if you care to continue refining your approach. I think your website is much further along than 99% of pitching websites out there in that it actually focuses on throwing mechanics. I called you out on a couple of your articles but I think you do a real good job compared to most, like pitching.com for example.
Lankylefty, i think you missed it on this call. if you listen to what he’s teaching, you will. understand that he’s not simply showing you how to turn the back leg over.
this is all about generating torque to produce velocity. loading the back leg and pushing off is not simply turning it over, which i can do without loading the back leg. i see too many pitchers falling from the mound instead of loading up and extending their back leg.
i also checked out the website and articles on backwards chaining. they didn’t say much about how to do it, and they also gave plenty of tired old advice that will get you hurt.
take the time to listen to Brent’s video and understand it before “calling him” on something you know nothing about.
Lanky lefty,
It also looks like to me you do not grasp the concept that pitching is a sideways forward body movement triple extension with lower body, hips, upper torso, shoulders separation being executed in proper sequence at the proper time during the forward body throwing movement which is, during the foot, leg and rear hip drive from the rubber into a stride of at least matching one’s body height by stretching, extending the front foot and leg out reaching for the front foot touch down point which is driven to the landing point by the drive and stretching out, extending of the rear foot, leg and hip out to their fullest length from the rubber while rear foot is still momentarily attached to the rubber just prior to touch down, actually I call these two leg extensions double, triple leg extensions beings both legs are stretched, extended out at the same time while driving to the point of a soft knee landing front foot touch down.
type in http://www.topvelocity.net/Nolan-Ryan/ click on Nolan Ryan, slo motion top velocity . net which is a great video clip of Nolan Ryan demonstrating how what I have explained on how the whole pitching movement, “TRIPLE EXTENSION” ect. should be executed and taught. then you will see what Brent is attempting to get over to those who do not understand these movements and the fact that “DROP and DRIVE” and ” STEP and FALL” are still so ingrained into everyone’s minds that they do not understand the changing terminology to “TRIPLE EXTENSION” with “LOWER BODY, “HIPS” “UPPER TORSO,”SEPARATION” being executed in proper sequence and at the proper time during the pitching movement.
These very important movements executed properly during the pitching movement are very instrumental in allowing the pitcher to properly use his whole body from the ground up which alleviates the enormous tension, strain and abuse created on the arm during the pitching movement.
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I think Brent does about as good a job as he can over video of trying to explain how to achieve this separation. But how can you communicate a feeling (of the hips “firing” correctly, for example) over video? The answer: you can’t. So that’s why the suggestion to just get into the correct landing position, throw from there and then try to land in that position is unsatisfying. Ultimately, the player’s mind and body have to figure out what this feels like on their own.
I speak as somebody who has grasped exactly what I’m supposed to look like at landing, but struggled repeatedly to actually achieve this separation when put into the entire delivery. I guess I’m just saying that it’s SO much easier said than done. No critique to the video whatsoever, but a valid point to mention nonetheless.
The biggest thing for me was realizing that, at some point, video taping every throwing session was just not the way to go. And stressing about exactly what I look like at landing just created paralysis by analysis. At some point, I just had to rear back and throw the shit out of the ball – to a catcher off a mound from 60 feet. That helped me more than anything.
I was a little harsh in my comment earlier. That was a long time ago and my views have changed some.